well if there's movement thats a little possibility maybe you be able to pull thru have faith bro, If you lose the litter will all i have to say is that i know the feeling and all i can advise you is the same thimg other breeders told me, Move on foward and you will have a better luck with her next litter,this mistakes happen to the best of breeders why cant it happen to us ameture breeders like us..well Bro thats Sad to hear i feel you right now i lost the litter of my chesters after looking foward to them all thru the pregnancy.

Thanks bud I ain't gonna let it bring me down. I am headed up to my buddy James in the a.m to pick up some Lute hopefully its not too late.

sounds good Bro. will keep praying for a good turn out .

keep us posted on how things turn out... i am sure every thing will be alright for you. at least i hope they do for you

Thanks Amanda, I know everything will be allright no matter what happens with this litter these are just the speed bumps in the process of farrowing season. If it allways went perfect everyone would raise hogs. Personally I take it out on myself because I expect perfection from myself and and expect more and better preperation than I had coming into the weekend. I have allways prided myself on being on top of things and prepared for anything that could happen but this past week I took myself for granted and the big man up stairs had to let me know I was slacking. I heard the big man and I am back on track today. still had good movement from the babies inside this morning and administerred 1.5cc's of lutalyce in the gilt now I have sit wait and prey that I recieve a mulligan on my slacking and everything turns out on the positive side. Thanks for all the positive comments and thoughts Ty Clark

i had a gilt just farrow this morning that was 7 days overdue!!!!! litter looks great and are very active!!! Ty You should have prob giver her atleast 5cc of the lute and u can almost guarentee that u will have pigs on the ground within 24 hours!!!! I have been breeding for many years now and it always seems no matter how prepared you may be you will always have a misshappen in the farrowing barn every year!! Good luck man hope all goes well... Also when she spits out the first one make sure u giver her 1cc of oxytocin to help her with the rest!!!

Thanks Texan, I know what you mean about there allways being at least one mishap during farrowing season it never fails. I am going to steer clear of giving her 5cc's of lute though. I gave her 1.5cc's this morning and will give her 2cc's 12 hours after the first dose. I have used this method everytime I have ever Induced and have had good results and have allways had the sows go into labor within 36hrs. The only thing different about this situation and all of my other times is I have never given it this late (day 118) on a first parity gilt. So I have prepared myself for the worse which is losing the whole litter that way anything other than that outcome I would consider a success.

Well we finally got this stubborn a** gilt to farrow well somewhat I guess. She spit out 4 and happy to say 3 of the 4 are alive but it has now been going on 7 hours and nothing else but we are certain there are several left in her. Nothing stuck up in her she is just not pushing anymore and the Oxytocin doesnot seem to be working on her anymore. gonna be a long night of sittin and waitin on her to pass the rest. still have some movement in her so I guess we will see what happens. I have my litter 6 due tomarrow and I am certain her litter will lift my spirits after this ordeal. 3 litters still left to farrow for the year and man I need some big numbers to pick up this years avg. but shoot fire the quality is there.

good News bro something is BETTER than NOTHING at least you have something good to say after all this sleepless weekend? Well good Luck with the Coco litter..

Thanks Jay I agree something is better than nothing, thats the gamble that you take with them 1st parity show gilts, you just never know how they are gonna react to the farrowing process not her fault though she just didnt know what she was supposed to do and I am ok with that.

well this topic has REALLY OPENED my eyes? how defficult this bussiness can turn out when your not prepared and dont KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING. but all the positive facts that ALL of you had to say is really intresting to now and to learn..so from now on i'am gonna start doing my research to avoid tragedies like this to pe prepared to know what to do in this case.. BUT i have a main concern WHAT'S NEXT TO THE sow that does something like this do you breed her again or do you rather get rid of her to avoid this mistake again

hahaha that is the same question i am asking my slf. i got a pretty nice gilt that as some awsome babies on her right now, but we had to pull every one of her babies. this was her first litter. i dont really want to chance pulling all of them again. but i was told that our heat will cuz her to do what she did to. But so will genetics ( not having a wide enough pelvis)

I had a gilt this year went 120 days. I was worried but watched her close.She would stand up and eat everytime I fed morning and evening.When she was laying down I could see the babies moving everyday. On the day I was thinking about giving her lut she farrowed at 5 in the morning. 11 live but one shakey head died two days later. They are awsome pigs. Superduper X trooper X106-2 X new beginings.

Well, THANK YOU everyone for your input. We used some of all of it.
It was worth the headache as we raised Grand Gilt And Reserve Grand Duroc barrow out of our first two litters, this all being at our county show. We had 10 pigs go Thursday and all made the sale.
Again thanks to everyone especially the families that purchased these animals and made them so good.


Jerry