Hey guys I thought this would be a fun topic, which breeder has had the biggest impact on the industry (Boar Stud or breeder ) ?

Jerry McLemore. End of Question.

I'm just curious why you would choose mclemore? I think he impacted it at one point with 105 , but I cannot recall how that lead into this great era. I could be wrong and I don't think you are wrong , but I would just like to know why you chose him . Thanks

With the Yorks Grimm is the man
Hamps I would say Kilmer has been getting it done
Crosses anybodies guess RW was in but looking at the SWTC I think his days are numbered

My personal opinion would favor Cobbs as the most impactful breeder because of their consistent success and moderation in meeting the needs of pigs in the showring, the crate, and the meathouse consistently for a long time now.

Rory Duelm

Ok I am going to say Brent Bolen with Fatal Attraction, almost every big stud company out there if not all have a fatal son or fatal influence boar in there stud that are producing champions all around the country more than any other line out there. Fatal Attraction has impacted the industry so hard in a way that in my opinion no other boar of any breed has or will ever do. Fatal attraction has done it all market barrows and gilts, boars, breeding gilts and sows that can produce in the crates, and his offspring is breeding on.

Fatal Attraction produced some of the most non-maternal females I can think of. Yea, he did a good job of adding base width and muscle, but he also did a great job of throwing broken topped poor-hipped crossbred pigs. In addition, it is a pretty bold statement to suggest that Fatal in his prime was producing more champions than the original Alias (bred by Marek's). Hell, the original Alias is still being used by many to lay in females. I can't really think of any major breeders who are still paying the $200 a dose to breed one to Fatal.

Was he one of the best crossbred sires in recent memory? Probably. But was he the best crossbred sire overall? Probably not.

ha ha ha ha SET YOUR,

If you say Fatal Attraction produced some of the most non-maternal females you can think of and also doing a great job of throwing broken topped poor-hipped crossbred pigs.
Why is he a huge name in the industry?
Why is his offspring still breeding on?
Why is he still putting out champions at majors, and boars selling for big money at his age?
Why do a lot of breeders have fatal sows in their herds?
And I will tell you he hasn’t done this just on adding base width and muscle. Another thing to see Rory buy a $50,000 fatal boar and do to his herd what he has done you my friend are wrong!!!! I am going to agree with you when you say that you can’t think of any major breeders who are still paying the $200 a dose to breed one to Fatal; but it’s probably because like I said they already have a fatal son that they are using. Some people might agree with me and some might not but I don’t care. What matters is what he has done and is doing for the industry other than that I will let his genetics speak for them self’s.

I am going to agree with rgv, SET YOUR fatal has done so much for this industry that he deserves a lot of credit. I was very surprised when I saw Rory introduce the fatal line to his I never thought I would see that.

Was he one of the best crossbred sires in recent memory? yes. But was he the best crossbred sire overall yes he is. my opinion

The honor for best crossbred boar of all-time belongs to 105, the pariah of dark exotic sires.

As for Rory investing in Classic Steal, if you knew what anything about Classic Steal's dam, you would know that coming from Sell in Iowa, she had predominately Duelm breeding back in her pedigree, other than her sire being New Level 9-4 (a Hi Point boar/a son of Karber's popular NN 73-8 son). Of course, I'm sure neither of you thought that out.

I think you both think I have something against Fatal. I don't, but neither of you are looking at the negative aspects of the majority of his offspring or what the boar himself needs improved. I have had females out of him and two of his sons. The one milked like shit, the other is a fantastic mother, but that has more to do with her dam.

105 died leaving nothing behind , as for fatal he has led us to a great era leaving a giant trade mark. As for Rory’s boar yes I knew the dams sow had duelm genetics but study the boar hes got FATAL written all over him. Even Rory had to go with what is winning today, oh and lets not forget about the other FATAL ATTRACTION boar rory has WHITEY HARZOG. It is obvious that the fatal line is working for everyone in a positive way , but maybe just not for you a gilt or a sow can only do so much. Im not saying he is the perfect boar or that he is going to clinch with every sow but what he has done to this industry is unremarkable.

McLemore is the most influential breeder in the crossbred industry in history hands down!

JLM 7-2 (Prodigy x Baditude)
- Prodigy (JLM 33 x Alley Cat)
- 5 Shots of JLM 105 in his pedigree (I thought JLM 105 didn't leave anything behind?)
- Super 7 (Super Glossy x JLM 7-2)
- Every Crossbred Whitman boar in the country has Super 7 influence

JLM 102 (JLM 7-2 x Baditude)
- Immortal (JLM 102 x 73-7)
- Immortal speaks for himself and what he did at Hi Point

ARK Modern Marvel (JLM Sasquatch x JLM 7-2)
- Sired the Dam of Priceless ($130,000 2009 Grand @ Crossbred Classic)
- Cobb says he is the best black exotic boar they have ever used.
- Sire of ARK Predestined
- All McLemore Breeding

JLM Sasquatch (JLM 7-2 x Hamp)
- Offspring include: Modern Marvel, Predistined, Overload, & Lawyer
- No one in the country has access to him but McLemore and Cobb

Fatal Attraction (Main Attraction x Chrome)
- Chrome (Grand Theft x Bocephus)
- Grand Theft (Reachin' Out x JLM 105)
- There is no question Fatal has been one of the most influential boars of all time, but as you can see he has JLM 105 in his pedigree (Again I thought JLM 105 left nothing behind?)

McLemore is bar none the most influential crossbred breeder of all time. This list could be a lot longer, but I think the point has been taken.


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Exactly.

105 is the pariah of exotic boars, there simply was none better, and as I stated in my first post earlier this month, Jerry McLemore is the most influential breeder out there.

Just bye looking at those pedigrees I might argue 7-2 is a little more influential then 105 but that just turns into an apples to apples argument.